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Erin and Tiffany
FOUND by Laura Warman
in Washington
I was walking to my math class when I noticed a bunch of little pieces of paper strewn across the hallway. I stole my math teacher's tape, lost my participation points in class and slowly taped it all together, discovering the secret lives of Erin and Tiffany.
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We collect FOUND stuff: love letters, birthday cards, kids' homework,
to-do lists, ticket stubs, poetry on napkins, telephone bills, doodles -
anything that gives a glimpse into someone
else's life. Anything goes...
I love how the one who wrote the note believes that she is being the mature one.
I want to know what was said behind her back.
P.S. I think this note clearly confirms that she's not over it, or she wouldn't be wasting her time talking about it.
I like how the note writer just wants to "let the whole thing end in this note".. (just so she can have the last word.)
Yeah. Mature.
I wonder if there was more to the note, which specified the names Erin and Tiff, or if those were just Laura's (finder, not first commenter) favorite "like, yeah...." highschool drama girl names.
Finder Laura's Veronica Mars-like drive to discover the truth, no matter the personal cost, is inspiring.
I similarly am curious about how she knew the names. Although, if this had been me at my high school, I would've known who the people were instantly. Small towns - hooray.
I actually think this note is pretty mature. Considering the setting, her options were probably three:
(1) spread rumors
(2) catfight, catfight
(3) write a note on purple paper
Assuming she really only did number 3, then kudos to Erin or Tiffany.
I wonder which party tore this up? I'm hoping that it wasn't the "mature" one in favor of another one of the tactics Sara mentioned. It's a very high-school thing to do.
And I just wanted to say to those hailing from small towns that I am thoroughly jealous. My high school in Southern California has close to 3000 kids and more Erins and Tiffanys than I'd ever care to know.
Kids these days, and their new-fangled "participation points."
Message in a Bottle: No matter your school's enrollment or location, I think there's a static ratio of Erins/Tiffanys to the rest of the general school population. However, they're probably easier to manage in a smaller place where they travel in pairs rather than packs.
I don't know, Message...in my small rural highschool grades 7-12 were only 500 kids in one building, and there were still "packs" of clique members. Small, but they did run in packs. Trouble is, the smaller the population, the larger the percieved importance of the "in" clique. And the more power they exert over the rest of the kids. Unless like me you are determinedly excentric...the joy of my life was to pop their little bubble! I managed breifly to create an "anti-clique" in my senior year, which was quite an achievement. Sad, but an achievement
i actually like the note, and the writer. it might seem bitchy but i think the writer sounds spunky, genuinely doesn't like drama, and i like it.
Oooh, she means business-she wrote Drama with a capital D :0
Hun, you don't "get over" "creating drama" by writing an I'm-not-friends-with-you-anymore note.
I'm impressed you stuck it all back together!!!
Another thing to do in boring class.... crumple a piece of notepaper so many times it becomes soft, like a tissue.
The writer of this note is clearly causing her fair share of drama by writing this, even though she outwardly denies wanting to be a part of any drama. Sounds like a total beeyatch. Clearly this is not the end.
BTW What a way to lose your participation points in class. Tell the teacher that FOUND Magazine made you do it. Some activities are just more important. Sounds like you have your priorities straight.
Baby basil - Wouldn't an anti-clique sort of defeat the purpose?
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
The Erin/Tiffany Drama is secondary to the fact that the Finder risked life and limb - if changing classes is anything like I remember from eons ago - to scrabble around on the floor and gather every single shred of the note. Then, at the risk of participation points - whatever those are - taped it back together to share with the rest of the world via Found.
The smart money is on the Finder having more at stake in this deal than just being the one that found the pieces on the floor. Does she know the author and recipient because she watched the Passing Of The Note? And then witnessed the furious Tearing Of The Note? Or, is there more to the note that has not been shown? Could she possibly be a friend of Erin's or Tiffany's determined to discredit the reputation of the other? Or, humiliate them on The Web? Inquiring minds want to... nah, it really doesn't matter.
Baby basil, an anti-clique is kind of hordes of kids dressing in a goth like manner, because they want to look different.
Erin and Tiff will kiss and make up, i've seen this episode. If the note was written at 5 past the hour, at 25 past the hour, they will hug, and cry, just a little bit. (not enough to ruin their preteen makeup.)
I used to write notes like this all the time in 8th grade. I really thought I WAS the mature one.
...kind of *like* hordes of kids...
proofread, proofread, proofread...grrr
Miss Warman in Washington,
You may have lost participation points in math class, but you multiplied them ten-fold for submitting this note to Found. Thank you!
I'm especially impressed with the writer's spelling and penmanship.
You know, my high school had groups of friends who hung out together, but they were never very exclusive or typically "cliquey." I think we were all too stoned to care about "cool kids" vs. not so cool kids.
This is exactly the type of stuff I tried to avoid in high school. We rolled with the punk rock crowd. I guess we thought we were the 'anti-clique', nevertheless we were pretty frickin cool. Everybody called us freaks and didn't want to go near us out of fear. The best part was we were strong in numbers. Alas, most of them converted to the preppy crowd as they grew older and gave up on the 'phase'. Sad. It meant so much more than that, it was about smashing the system and still is.
This actually sounds like a note between Brody and Spencer. "My friends won't change because they are your friends." That's for sure what's going on with those two guys right now. I think Brody must have sweet talked Lauren into helping him write this, thus the purple paper.
ok, i admit it - i'm a comment whore. i posted this link a couple of days late to a find from a couple of days ago, so the masses didn't get to enjoy. :-) the people who did go to this site thought it funny, though!
here's a dramatic reading of a found break-up letter...i laughed my ass off. make sure your sound is on.
http://youmakemetouchyourhandsforstupidreasons
wow...kudos for taking a class period for taping this together. this is definately more important than math. you'll never use that anyways.
It's kind of funny. Because I remember a girl named Angela, who wrote one of my best friends a note about how she wasn't her friend anymore. I asked Angela what made her want to write a note rather than just tell my friend to her face. I guess I offended her... she started rumors about me & half the people I hung out with. Funny how it turned out... all the people I hung out with were previously her friends. Well, until she opened her mouth. She got her own payback, and all I did was ask her one curious question.
Hey! I am the one who found this. In fact this note is part of a series of 4 pages of notes back and forth singed by Tiffany and Erin. The notes kind of go from terribly mean to "I'm mature!" I found this my senior year of high school and I guess it just added to my disillusionment. haha
The only thing a nonconformist hates more than a conformist is a nonconformist that does not conform to the rules on nonconformity.
Man, this is scary. I wrote notes like that thinking I was the mature too! Sadly, most people never actually progress past High School. I have a friend that to this day bitches and moans about how much HS messed up her life and how much she hates those people. Talk about drama!
Kudos Laura! (Disillusionment builds character, hahaha) What a perfect find so close to Halloween. I can't think of anything more frightening than High School.
Whenever anyone says or writes "drama" as in "creating drama, like oh my gawd" I think of all those dumb rich-teen shows, like the OC and those valley girls, etc. And I think it must be read "D-rrAma" to get the full effect.
What I don't understand: Why Tiff thought she'd score some "maturity" points with that last sentence, and what the hell it means "My friends won't change because they are your friends." It could be read a couple different ways, I think.
Hi manda, welcome back! How's it goin'?
Thanks for the link, tee hee. Now I can't help imagining it being read by John Gielgud.
Atually the phrase 'you make me touch your hands for stupid reasons' is rather romantic and quite sexy, like The Piano or something.
sigh. the moles in my computer won't let me look at manda's link. They say its illegal or questionable.... i can't wait to go home and listen to it.
There are a few comment whores here, manda.
Ah the Drama of being in high school. Most teenagers think that is what their life will be forever. Aaaaand then they get out into the real world.
I had someone I thought was my friend write a nasty letter like this to me in grade 12. For no reason that I can think of. I still don't understand it. I think I DID do the right thing,though, by throwing the letter out and not responding.
Reminds me of post-breakup letters I have written (and was so proud of). Like, I'm the better one, you will realize your mistake... and "my friends won't change because..." classic breakup. At least... they are all on my side!!
Great find, but too much back story. Let's keep it short and sweet. "I found this at school and taped it together." Do I need to know it was math class and that participation points were lost? Nope.
weird...i'm a tiffany and i had a friend named erin who(m?) i stopped being friends with our senior year of high school. but neither of us were mature enough to write such a drama-free letter.
Hand in pocket...don't be so mean.
Mona...you have moles in your computer?
but they don't deny me access to the good sites! Down with the moles! Hooray for hamsters.
And they pretty much let me go where I want, but Haven't tried anything too questionable. Regardless I am sure BIG Brother is watching my every move.
I loved high school, it was such a cool place to go when I needed a nap. Air conditioned, full of relative strangers, and sometimes I just had to come in off the street, you know? The only drama I experienced in school was in my dreams...sweater over my head on the desk, drool, and occasional snore that tended to cause a ripple of giggles. Ahh, those were the days.
Turbo you are so right!! I've always laughed at the so called "non-conformists." I mean first of all if a whole group doesn't conform, aren't they actually be conforming by default? And it seems like most of those same people are all just alike in their choice or clothing as well as ideas anyway, which points back to my original statement. Baaaaa
Whoops..to be or not to be.
That should read "aren't they actually conforming by default."
what should i call them, Sean S.? there are controls that won't let me get to any of the good sites. (except for Found, but when they find out about my fun, i'm sure they'll shut that down too) What pisses me off, is i can't read about what Britney's up to, but all the sports addicts can access their sports scores and crap like that. Its misogynistic, as far as i'm concerned.
Hand in pocket, we like the backstory. If Laura could have told us what they were supposed to be learning in math, and what she was wearing, that would be great, too.
Although I did tend to run with the punks, goths and (what we called them instead of stoners) the hoods, I always considered myself an "eccentric contrarian".
Mona,
When I first started this job a couple of months ago, I could hardly visit any sites either. Actually, this was one of the few places I could access. Then I made friends with the guys in IT. :o)
Laura, thanks so much for the great story to go with. Makes it much better. The find itself reminds me of highschool, which is not such a good thing. Anybody remember how the parents of Tiffany or Erin would always tell you when you were at their house for dinner that highschool was the best time of their life? When that happened I would always seriously consider killing myself with my table knife.
(If there are any highschool kids reading this, trust me. It gets better! Don't do anything drastic.)
Kelsey
The moles bamboozle me too... and it's kind of scary... every once in a while you'll notice they aren't there... and that means "they're" watching...
I think girls have changed a lot since I was in high school. I don't know if Tiff is "mature" but I do give her props for being brave. She's discovered she doesn't have to like everyone, and it's totally okay if everyone doesn't like you. Most people don't figure this out until MUCH later in life.
This stuff is such a poppycock. A mature person has never friends, just acquaintances.
mona - try msnbc's entertainment section for your britney fix (dont click the entertainment section, but the headlines for the articles). i have some pretty rough filters at work too.
hey dudes at "Dirty Found" second to Amber who is most referenced/authored in your finds? I gotta bet on Tiffany.
i think that this is hilarious cause i would do the same thing as laura.
i love this note.
its hilarious.
Mona,
Heh, I haven't tried. But I can access my non-work email, entertainment sites, My Space and Ebay which I wasn't originally able to do. I think they know how desperately bored I get working the front desk and took mercy on me.
I will be starting a front desk job next monday I guess I have that to look forward to. I didn't know where South Cackalackie was so I had to google it, and yes there is a north cackalackie too.
Turbo - Eccentric Contrarian is an awesome term!
Thank you, Turbo. You're the only one who got what I meant. And you made me smile.
One of two things happened. (1) Erin or Tiffany wrote this, gave it to the other, and the recepient read and tore it up, scattering the pieces in the hallway or (2) the writer reread her missive, decided it wasn't a mature way to deal with the situation, and tore it up herself, tossing the pieces. I prefer #2, so I guess she was the mature one.
Or this could have gotten torn up while they were grabbing violently for one another's hair?
"kitten fight, kitten fight!"
"Mature" in this context is a word used only by children in reference to other children, and by their parents or teachers who are trying to convince them to be more "mature." Adults use the word mature as a euphemism for middle-aged. Hint: if you want to seem more grown-up than you are, never use the word "mature."
Another word that connotes the opposite of its meaning is "modern." What could be more out of date than anything termed "modern"?
I wish I lived in America - simply so that if and when I reference Veronica Mars people would know what I was talking about.
However, evil teen high school based tv programmes and films caused girls in school to behave exactly as those stereotypical bitchy cheerleaders do.
And thus I've no doubt many similar notes to this one were passed around.
It actually reminds me of a girl I know who goes on and on about how much she hates drama and how awful girls are for creating drama but doesn't realise that most of the time she's the one creating said "drama".
As for reminiscing over school days. I wish people would learn that it's ok to be yourself early on. You don't need fake blonde hair or fake tan nor do you need a full face of make up for school every day (especially in an all girls Irish Catholic school).
Luckily my friends and I semi formed an "anti-clique" unintentionally. We were accused of "worshipping the devil" because we were on the "dark side" and God forbid, listen to Damien Rice!!
Sorry. Rant over.
In case you couldn't guess, I did not enjoy school all too much.
Pedantic Windbag, I prefer to think of middle age as "ripening." It sounds juicier.
You're right. Vintage is the new modern.
Wow, I have seen plenty of these notes in my day...
and believe me, this note is pretty mature compared to what we high-schoolers can do to each other.
OH, I don't know. I think she's kind of cool. She's letting it all end, so she can go back to "not being having anything to do with you." I didn't see that as bitchy, exactly. I think she was just speaking her truth. I like the letter on pink lined paper. It's classy.
what an appropriate find today... this is weird
I love this find! I think you should RECEIVE participation points as this could easily be turned into a math problem - what w/the multiple pieces of paper and all.)
I love the story caption, "Stole my teacher's tape and lost participation points." Adorable.
We love Veronica Mars at this house. Too bad it's over. However, high school was never that witty.
very nice... too bad you had to make the sacrifice
This makes me sad.
At least she can spell.
Haha! how many times have I done this type of thing in order to find out stuff. yay! nosy-peeps club!
UGH D-R-A-M-A!!!DRAMA!!
Oh, the memories. How it makes me glad I'm not in high school any more and haven't been for decades.
Oh, I love the "mature" comment in there. You can't "be mature" if you aren't. You can try to act the way you think mature people would, but it's still just an act. Maturity takes time to evolve.
Of course, some people never achieve actual maturity...
Laura, honey, believe me, evil-highschool-girl cliques existed WAY before teen soap TV! Even back in the days of Ozzie and Harriet and "everything's perfect in America" TV, there were evil teenage girls. Perhaps it was even worse back then because nobody could acknowledge their existence.
"...so I can go back to not having anything to do with you"
Brilliant!
Finally, a somewhat INTELLIGENT and well written/expressed note. This girl did a good job of getting her feelings across. I feel as though I know exactly what the matter was about. I hope whoever the note was intended for got to actually read it. Or maybe the writer was just blowing steam and wanted to write her thoughts down and really had no intention to deliver them in the first place?
I agree with Julie in Taiwan. I like the writer of this note. I think she really means it. I'm going to copy the exact wording of this note so I will know exactly what to say the next time someone tries to create needless drama.
Pedantic Windbag, that's hilarious! Mature and modern!
I think I may have dropped this note a time or two.
High School? Look at the writing.