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I'm Not a Hippie
FOUND by Jade
in Sydney, Australia
I found this exercise book at Newtown station one afternoon, empty except for this page. Not to sure who it's addressed to, but I thought it interesting reguardless.
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We collect FOUND stuff: love letters, birthday cards, kids' homework,
to-do lists, ticket stubs, poetry on napkins, telephone bills, doodles -
anything that gives a glimpse into someone
else's life. Anything goes...
I am not a hippie either. (coughs, slight scent of patchouli in the air)
I'm not so sure Kant would find this tasteful. Possibly one of the most useless arguments of time itself. The Ethics of a Carnivore. Hmmmm.
Great find though!!!
It's interesting to me how the note writer chose the word 'immoral'. The dictionary definition: "conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles"
I would argue the traditionally held principle is something like "animals are good to eat." I think history books would back up my assertion that consuming animals has always been the norm, and therefore represents the "traditionally held moral principle."
Hippie-girl needs to realize that while there's nothing wrong with being a vegetarian, vegan, or other, that is not the traditionally held principle.
Respecting the earth is certainly a traditionally held principle, just not the part about not eating animals. We can grow more pigs, so there will be bacon again soon.
All in all, a funny find.
definitely not a hippie.
Had she been a hippie she'd be able to spell [=
p.s.s.s. Yes you are.
p.s.s i am not a hippie ... i'm a judgenmental bitch
Funny how "keeping it real" so often involves creating your own set of rules and norms, and then expecting others to live by them. So often it's about "me" and what I will or will not wear, consume, do, buy...I am the centre of the universe! Everyone do as I say!
Eat what you want, or don't eat what you don't want, but don't expect the entire world to revolve around you and your choices. Choosing to exclude certain things from one's diet does not make one inherently superior to others.
"I'd probably like you better if you didn't consume animals."
I have to admit that my desire to be liked by someone is inversely proportional to their level of sanctimonious bullshittery.
The minute you imply that I should care what you think and then tell me that I'm immoral for eating animals, I actually STOP caring and will tell you that I'm sorta sorry I ever gave up my goat-raping habit.
In short, I'd probably like you better if you weren't such a pompous twerp, but that's your choice, and hopefully you'll have some sudden revelation and realize how off-putting it is.
PS: By the way, I'm a vegetarian.
PSS: I'm not a hippie, though.
Ok, I'll "keep it real from here on in" too...
I'd probably like YOU better if you weren't so immature, shallow and sanctimonious. with your attitude that anyone who thinks differently then you is wrong, misguided and "will hopefully one day realize the error of their ways".
the act of calling meat eating "immoral" only shows that you have no true concept of morality(or the lack there of). And implying that it's disrespectful to "the earth" shows you have no concept of how Nature works either.
is it "immoral" to eat animals for all the people around the world who would not survive without the protein they get from them? not everyone lives in a modern country were a bounty of alternative protein/nutrient sources awaits them at the corner grocery store.
and if your ancestors had shared your views on "dietary morality" they wouldn't have survived long enough to spawn you. complete and healthy vegetarianism is a luxury of a pampered society.
@Blaze; well said.
interesting that "sanctimonious" was the first word this note brought to mind for both of us.
Hey, Monkey!
"Sanctimonious" is a great word. I use it a lot, because we have a lot of sanctimonious jerks where I live.
I think most vegetarians realize that people in less privileged parts of the world can't really make that choice. Their logic is that because we CAN make that choice, we SHOULD. I I don't think it's fair to say that.
We totally owe it to animals to treat them well even if they're going to be food, and I personally am dodgy on eating meat for reasons I don't expect anyone else to follow along with. I just don't think anyone who chooses to eat meat is being deliberately lazy, ignorant, or evil. (Though some people are those things, of course, they wouldn't be any less so if they were vegetarians. Trust me.)
I agree -- it's a luxury of a privileged society. Not everyone has access to the information needed to go vegetarian safely, and not everyone has the emotional resources needed to do it sanely. I had to try three times before I was able to sustain it for any length of time, and I still cannot turn my nose up at my partner's mom's chicken and dumplings. (Saying no to her is not only immoral, it's probably dangerous as well. Much Woman.)
I'm sorry. That got serious and political.
(OTOH, that was almost three minutes I went without thinking about sex or html. I must be tired.)
This find is so much funnier because it was found at Newtown. :D
I thought it was a funny find for Newtown too, isn't everyone there a hippie? Or Vegan and maybe even immoral.
PS Isn't it ammoral? Rather than immoral?
Lol
REGARDLESS. sheesh.
Nah, Newtown is mostly sanctimonious yuppies by now. Ahh, gentrification. :3
I don't eat animals either and I'm not a hippy. I would class a hippy as a type of animal, filthy, smelly, disease carrying. Bleugh.....
It's odd...the more militant vegetarians of my acquaintance are so interested in protecting the animals and the planet, and yet they don't see the disconnect between that (laudable) attitude and their own abuse of their bodies through the excessive (by their own admission) use of alcohol, tobacco, and "recreational" drugs. I guess they figure if they're only destroying themselves, that's cool.
Good luck with that.
"I use it a lot, because we have a lot of sanctimonious jerks where I live"
I think there are a lot of sanctimonious jerks Ever Where.
and the "if you CAN make the choice you SHOULD" thing is part of my point, it's rather hypocritical to try and build/enforce morals around situational ethics.
And of course there's the fact that like you pointed out it's not that easy to maintain a healthy vegetarian diet even in the privileged areas of the world.
I have a friend who went vegetarian for several years and was quite happy with it... but her doctor actually told her she needed to start eating meat again because she wasn't getting enough nutrition. (now she's on this "no bread/grain" kick, but that's a whole other issue)
I couldn't agree more with you about the treating animals well. the way food animals are often treated is definitely (as the non-hippie girl would say)"immoral".
there's one of those high-tech "farms" that are little more then animal factories, not that far from me and it sickens me.
I fully support the idea of only eating humane/free range raised meat.
I have no problem with vegetarianism, and respect several of the good reasons people chose it. it's just sanctimonious twits like our Non-hippie friend here that annoy me.
(three minutes without thinking about sex or html? not bad. but that's why I quit html years ago... more time to think about sex now)
It's "P.P.S." not "P.S.S." Think about what the letters abbreviate you non-hippie you.
Ya'll are freakin' funny!! I get such a kick outta' reading all the posts...ah...makes me laugh, and that's my meds for the day. So, i have to come here!
This find works much better if you picture it as a note to someone with a nasty habit of grabbing hapless squirrels and songbirds whenever they pass by and stuffing them into his mouth.
About the note itself ... I notice how it is written with that big space between the first sentence and the next.
Do you suppose that space was going to be filled in when non-hippie girl decided how to connect being "real from here on in" with making non-immoral food choices?
@ Blaze, right on. This is nothing but, as you so aptly put it, sanctimonious bullshittery.
It's too early for me to get started on all the awful and specific details of this note, but it will suffice to say that I just want to kick the writer of this note in the teeth.
So, is the note-writer male or female?? The message seeems whiny and manipulative, which I generally associate with female traits (so shoot me), but the handwriting does seem more like a dude's.
God or whoever made me a carnivore. Vegetarianism is a choice.
My husband's job is actually to inspect meat packaging facilities. I think a lot of "Animal Rights" organizations would be surprised to know the videos PETA and other organizations throw around of animals' mistreatment before they die are, in actuality, very rare cases. Most facilities take great measures to not only make sure the animals die quickly and painlessly, but also without fear.
I also don't suppose any of them have considered how many people would be out of work if everyone stopped eating meat. The meat industry is an economic cornerstone and contributes 90 BILLION dollars to the economy every year and employs 300 thousand people in the United States alone. Take it away and we tumble.
If your personal preference is to not eat meat, then so be it. Good for you. It's good to be passionate about things.
But respect the fact that meat serves a great economical purpose, and also that meat-eaters have the right to make choices, themselves.
Now, to find my calculator so I can post this thing..
I’ve heard a number of quotes suggesting that a group of people could be judged based on how they treat their weakest members. I tend to agree, but I guess I consider “members” to be children, people with debilitating disabilities, the elderly, etc… Bacon just didn’t make my list.
I'm gonna have to eat a baby panda to get the taste of this FOUND outta my mouth.
Ooo! What a tasty find. (Sorry couldn't help myself.) Great commenting, too.
I want a self-inking stamp (red ink, please) with "Sanctimonious Bullshittery". I promise to put it to good use. =)
@cube girl, the writing style appears feminine to me - shape of "k", "r" and "y" especially. What parts make you think the writer is male?
@Blended in Baltimore: Emmanuel Kant but Kubla Khan.
When my younger brother was in college he once told me he was a member of PETA. I was shocked. Then he said it's not the PETA I was thinking of: his PETA was People Eating Tasty Animals, and all they did was have a BBQ once a month. They were THIS close to getting campus funding as a legitimate organization before someone in Admin figured it out.
After reading the book, "The Jungle", in middle school back in the 70's, I never could eat meat again. Makes me gag.
Plus, once I held a clucking chicken in my arms and pet a gentle cow on the face, that pretty much set the decision in stone. OK, ya'll...blast away at me.
And I am so NOT a hippy.
@ Woman in a horse stall ... I'm going to try to keep it real from here on in, and I'd probably like you better if you were a hippy.
@ Woman in horse stall:
Why would we blast you? That's your decision.
As long as you aren't implying any of us are lesser humans because we DO eat meat..
Also.. Do you eat Jell-o?
Are you aware there is meat by-product in Jell-o?
Also in most jams and jellies.
And certain breakfast cereals..
'Tis true.
Yet another case of someone trying to push their beliefs/preferences onto someone else.
People are so ridiculous sometimes.
"I'd like you better if you didn't consume animals." What does that mean? We can hang out, but not go steady? Sounds like a hippie way to say I like you, but I don't LIKE like you.
I think "sanctimonious bullshittery" could be the new "judgenmental bitch". Whaddya say Found Lexicon editors? Let's use it often!
Mmmm, yummy kangaroo, mate.
Aye, Nightingale, I shall endeavor to slip "sanctimonius bullshittery" into my everyday vernacular. (no shortage of opportinity where I work, that's for sure.)
I really have nothing for the Find, because y'all have said it all.. but I wanted to send a kudo (one of those chocolate covered granola bars) to JodaBabes for adding my favorite post on this Find. ([homer]favorite post So Far.[/homer])
PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals
(I really saw this on a t-shirt)
@ Grumpy, I'm not an expert, but I thought the general sloppiness of the writing seemed more masculine, and also that the letters seem to occupy more vertical space than horizontal space--masculine. Some of the letters, particularly the y's, do seem like girly writing, but the r's, t's, and capitol i's seem to counteract that.
@ Wifey, I completely agree with you regarding PETA's manipulation of the media in crucifying the meat industry. I was in 4-H livestock clubs for ten years, and my experience with meat processing and packing, from touring to working with directly, shows that the industry is nothing like the media images or presentations PETA gives. Of course, there are some exceptions, but those are, fortunately, rare.
I don't want to debate anybody, but Monkey, whatever your friend's doctor told your friend is a load. No way is meat superior to fruit and vegetables nutritionally, as far as protein goes, vegetables have protein. People who don't eat animals products don't get enough B-12, but that can be supplemented. Unhealthy vegetarians usually eat a lot of processed junk food, high in crappy carbohydrates--they are the vegetarians who become unhealthy (and a lot of times quite fat). And how many meat eating people are nutritionally deficient and unhealthy?
I'm not arguing for vegetarianism, I eat meat and animal products. I don't think it's immoral at all. And vegetarians and vegans who try to force their beliefs on others are just as bad as religious nuts who do the same thing.
A diet containing animal products is not any more healthful than a plant based diet, is all I'm saying.
I like the Finder's spelling of reguardless. Or is that how they spell it Down Undah?
I'll only love you if you make the right choice and stop eating people. (By people, I mean animals, because animals are people too.) When that happens, the Great Hippie in the Sky will take you into his fold.
P.S. I'm not a hippie or a veggie-vangelist. It's just that you're wrong and I'm right.
Oh good grief, this is SO a girl's writing. And by estimation, a young one at that. This is just some girl flexing her newly found p***y control trying to see if she can make some poor slob go meatless at the chance of dating a righteous vegetarian vixen. Whatever. You know it feels good to get all high-n-mighty, 'till life spins you around in yer tracks and smacks you and says, "look over THERE, stupid." Ahhhh, but only if you're lucky. Maybe she'll have good luck in life after acruing all this good karma going meatless.
P.S. Seriously though, I'm a vegetarian and I hate the veggie-vangelists. They make me want to burn things. Mostly veggie-vangelists.
P.P.S.I hate PETA. And hippies. But mostly PETA. They do a lot more damage than hippies.
P.P. P. S. It’s *P.P.S*, not P. S.S., you sorry, ignorant, self-righteous twit.
P.P.P.P.S. I’d probably like you better if you had a better grasp on the English language(spelling, grammar, word meaning, handwriting…)
Oh, and I’m TOTALLY adding the phrase "sanctimonious bullshittery" to my verbal repertoire. 100% Pure Awesome
I agree w/Chrome about JodaBabes post! Hi-lar-i-ous! JodaBabes, don't forget to wash it down with a Bald Eagle (or, if you prefer, a gray wolf). Hee!
Seeing that I'm clergy, the "sanctimonious" thing won't really work for me unless I change that second word to something like "nincompoopery." Hey - I like it: "Sanctimonious Nincompoopery." I think I'll work it into a sermon!
This site is great. I found it threw post secret, I love reading what other people have to say! :)
How about if I don't "consume" animals, but just sort of nibble them around the edges? Would you like me then?
Librarian, that reminds me of a joke my mother told me...
An old man walks into a bar with a three-legged pig and takes a seat at the counter. The bartender says, "Hey man, get that pig out of my bar!"
The man goes, "But I love this pig! This pig saved my life!"
"Oh yeah? What'd he do?" asks the bartender.
"Well, last week I was out working on the farm in a field miles away from home," bgeins the man, "when my tractor fell on me. I layed out there in the mud for three days, yelling for help, when finally this pig comes along. He walked over to the tractor, and struggled and struggled with it, and finally lifted it up enough for me to get free. I owe this pig my life!"
"Oh wow," said the bartender in amazement. "Is that how the pig lost its leg?"
"Naw," replied the man. "A pig that good, you don't eat all at once."
LOL Librarian! I would like to nibble a baby panda around the edges. Just a little bit. Just for a snack.
Monkey, your friend trading in vegitarianism for a no bread/grain issue just reinforces my position that militant vegans and vegetarians have eating disorders. Think about it, they spend all day thinking about food every second. What other kinds of people do that? Extremely resource-poor people and people with eating disorders. She has to restrict her diet in some way so she has an excuse to think about food every second, and she had to pick something fairly ubiquitous to police.
Militant veggies/vegans have to check the ingredient list of everything they put in their mouths because they are so special and so pure that they must stop the world to make sure they stay that way. It's all about insecurity and a bid for attention. When you go out to dinner with one it's all about them, where THEY can eat and what THEY can and can't have. Everybody look at ME ME ME! I am the most special! I am morally correct! How is that different from religious extremists?
Sounds like a self esteem issue. She should have written, "I would love myself better if I didn't feel so unworthy of love".
And not for nothing, but I put militant bodybuilders in the eating disorder category also.
Girl in a cube, i just saw that joke yesterday. Hilarious.
Ok..new insults for my book, added to 'elitist fuck' and judgenmental bitch.
Sanctimonious bullshittery. there's more of that around here than anything else.
veggievangelists too..that's awesome. As the only omnivore in a house fo vegheads, i need some ammo.
by 'around here' i meant work, not foundmagazine.com
I'm trying to figure out what 'wishing I was still in utero' self-edited.
Newly found party control?
Newly found panty control?
Newly found policy control?
Newly found pachouly control?
Got any clues Pastor Z?
you guys are retarded. can't you see that it would just never work out between them? she is telling him why. that's it. at least she's being honest.
I'd probably like you better if you wrote me a check for $20,000.
Everybody together now:
"SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
There's nothing wrong with edifying on what your moral and religious beliefs are, *Non-Hippie* chick, but, not at or on the expense of other individuals whom have done no wrong. Besides NOT eating what you do or don't believe in. BTW, that's *Non-Hippie* chick's standards, not the rest of the population.
I, myself, am in concordance with 90% of ya'll here. I love eating meat, and will never stop eating it unless I lose my teeth, of course!
To all the fabulous FOUND-HOUNDS today...I really love the verbiage of ALL and everyones' comments!!
I'd say 100% of the commentators, are unbelievably intelligent (lol! everyone!) and I'll admit...I had to get my Oxford Dictionary out and look up alot of the words that were used today...WOW!
I learn so much from ya'll!
Thank-You!
Elizabeth in Philadelphia, I'll keep it real from here on in.
I'd probably like you better if you grew a sense of humor and didn't suck up all the funny. But that's your choice and hopefully one day you'll have some sudden revelation and realize how blind to the humor you are.
P.S. Respect yourself and the funny.
P.S.S. I still hate PETA.
Isn't calling someone sanctimonious in and of itself being sanctimonious? Also, judgmental? (Not to mention judgenmental!)
This sounds like something I'd write to my cat, Chester, if indeed I were a hippie and wrote notes to my cat. When we had a doggie door, I got tired of cleaning up the reamins of gophers, mice, even pigeon feathers.
Yeah, I like it much better imagining it was written to a pet.
Since the subject of veggievangelism has come up, answer me this: do vegetarians engage in oral sex?
"remains," duh!
Red wine and parmesan cheese both frequently contain meat based products. I think meat is magic. If you feel "immoral" eating meat, just eat sheep meat, it's quite hard to rear in a horrid way. And there are massive areas of land that would not be viable for growing any type of food crop, but that sheep will live on in total bliss.
Yes, Grumpy. They just don't swallow.
The World does NOT revolve around me?? Oh crap. But there is a Santa Claus, right? Right???
Does yeast count as an animal? Or the mould in cheese, that's living too.
Thanks, Ghost. Always was curious about that matter but didn't know any vegheads (tip of the cap to Mona) well enough to ask them.
Oh, and Elizabeth in Philly, you are judenmental. :P
@sick in tired: You must not be American: "I am the centre of the universe! Everyone do as I say!"
If you were, you'd get it.
Also, yeah, our author is definitely being judgenmental. Further, "keeping it real" is as irksome a phrase as "back in the day."
For the record, I believe veganism and vegetarianism are personal choices and should remain that way. That said, it is no less irritating to hear someone malign another person for eating meat than it is to hear someone being maligned for not eating meat. What I put in my mouth and why I put it there is my business, and I like to keep it to myself, unless the forum encourages such discussion (as I believe today's comments do). If you were to ask me why I choose not to eat meat, I would tell you. Otherwise, I assume you don't care. I do not think those of you who choose to eat meat are immoral, mostly because I believe that we are all sovereign beings, capable of judging what is or is not right for ourselves. I would no more like to have that power taken from you than I would like it to be taken from me.
So, consider that not everyone who chooses to abstain from meat is a judgenmental bitch. Some of us are quite reasonable.
What's up with hippy stigma? I mean, I have a hunch that the person who wrote this note wasn't even around in the 60's and has no idea what harm or good or change came about thanks to hippies. If I were around in the 60's, I would be a hippy. Not a dirty, nasty, junkie, bandwagon hippy. But a hippy with revolutionary ideas. Ideas that deviated from the old attitude of conformity, and ideas that I could somehow make a difference in the world, through peace, love, and thinking for myself. And what's wrong with that?
Hey lipstick,
I agree with one thing you said: "I assume you don't care." Go grab a veggie burger and chill.
In my experience, no matter what the issue under discussion, the first person to become openly hostile is usually the one with the issues.
Hey, can I take a poll?
I really, really like the smell of patchoulli, but I eat meat. I drive a Subaru, but I live in a double-wide. Am I or am I not, a hippy?
It surprised me that this person[I'm guessing teenage girl] that wrote this note angered so many people on found. Ha.
When I read it I actually though she meant it in a sort of joking/teasing way.
Though, after I read the comments I can see how it could be taken as insulting, but still, lighten up people.
It's not like this girl said this to you. Maybe the person she wrote it to was just an asshole, and she was just trying to rile them up.
Anyway, I agree with baby basil on this one.
If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meat.
Always saddens me a little when people use Hippie as a Slur. Or Liberal for that matter.
I don't have any problem with whatever people are:Vegetarian, Christian, Animal Lover, Republican (for a few examples) BUT if you are judgenmental about it (I.e. if you don't believe what I believe you are not only wrong but you're going to Hell, either literally or metaphorically.)Or you engage in some other form of Santimonious bullshittery then I have a problem. Live and let live, I say.
Oh, and Hippie is spelled with an -ie. Hippy is a woman with childbearing hips!
'nuff said!
Then I most definately am hippy. Really, really hippy. And I like it.
Thanks, Mr/Ms Small Bear. Please, in the future, chalk up any spelling, grammar, punctuation errors to the malfunction in my cranium, but don't hesitate to correct me, if you feel the need.
i live near to newtown and i can safely say - its got more than its fair share of hippies. this person is a hippy in denial
i am openly hostile to baby basil. what a stupid name. i bet you are a pathetic patchouli-sniffing wretch who runs a bookshop.
there, thats made me feel better.
i'm a vegetarian and i HATE PETA. they disgust me...
i still eat eggs, fish, cheese, AND jello. if people think that because i eat fish, i'm not a vegetarian, i don't care. i could never give up fish. it's just too damn good.
@Ghost: I'm feeling pretty level-headed without the veggie burger, but thanks for the concern.
@brain problem... I was only joking about the spelling of Hippie. Both variants (Hippie and Hippy) are correct, according to my dictionary. Thanks for not taking it personally and getting angry. :)
darcy, you eat fish. Fish are animals. Animals eaten as food are meat. Since you eat meat, you are not a vegetarian. People care because you're using the term incorrectly. Claiming you're a vegetarian when you eat meat makes you look like an idiot. I don't know if you are or not, but that's the impression you're giving off.
And obviously you do care on some level or else you wouldn't have brought it up on a public forum for all the internet to see. It obviously bothers you and you want everyone to know how you feel.
That reminds me of someone I ran across who claimed to be vegetarian but then said they ate free range turkey on Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Darcy, I went the "I don't eat mammals" route for a while. Had to give it up when I got So. Damn. Tired. of fish and chicken. Nothing like a 2.5-inch thick, medium-rare filet at Hugo's Cellar in the 4 Queens in Las Vegas to make you rethink your eating habits. Yummmm
it's world vegetarian day :) i'm celebrating.
Librarian, I could not care less if you like me or not.
Happy World Vegatarian Day, Everyone!
I bet the FOUND guys are vegetarians...
The posts on this find (and the other one today)has been an awesome ending to the day.
Alan, your line was the BEST (Soylent Green..great movie!).
As for my 2 cents: A Boy and His Dog (guess who gets eaten)
I'm going to celebrate world vegetarian day with a burger.
Wow. So many posts. I love it.
Hmmm...hippy...I am a bit hippy myself...must be from all those burgers.
Peace, Love & Happiness! At age 10 in 1971 I took a road trip from Wyoming to Chicago and back with my 20 year old cousin and his wife. Can't believe my parents let me go with, I'm sure they were just happy to get one of the kids out of the house for a while. I remember 2 long haired hippie guys hitch hiking at one of our gas stops and wanting so badly to pick them up. Something about them sticks in my mind still. I wasn't even boy crazy then but I think the seed was planted early. Always been attracted to the wild long haired boys. It's hard to fulfill a hippie fantasy in 2008...
@Wifey in Her Jammies; it's not the actual slaughtering part where the animal mistreatment generally is. it's in the raising the animals part. slaughter houses/meat packing is a generally well regulated business (in part due to inspectors like you husband no doubt), but the farming done of livestock these days is often very inhumane. the animals come from factories not farms.
of course PETA wouldn't think about any of that, because they are run by idiots who only see the killing of any animal ever as bad.
@Terrie-Is-So-Very
yes you're right, there are other ways my friend could have gotten the protein/b-12 etc. I'm sure the doctor actually told her something like, she had to change her diet, and adding meat would be the best/easiest way to fix it.
all i know is she re-started eating meat not because she wanted to but because of doctors directions.
@wendy in austin; she doesn't avoid bread out of food snobbery or anything, it's a diet thing. the idea being No Bread(and few grains)= fewer carbs= less weight. NOT that atkins crap, but a low carb diet.
not that I agree with her idea there... I NEED bread, without bread there can be no sandwiches! not to mention pizza!
come on folks, even hitler was a vegetarian.
it is rather funny how riled up you all got trying to defend your dirty ways. vegetarians are a product of luxury? i highly doubt more than one of you have ever, or could if you had to, kill your own food...
I've eaten living creatures. Does that count, John Waters?
John Waters knows what's up. (understatement)
And, yeah, relativism. But, if this is a place with notebook paper and train stations... I'm assuming this person doesn't live in a culture built on respect and understanding of life...
Trust this to be found at newtown station. I go to college there.
No doubt it was a hippy.
love the pps. "I'm not a hippie"
Ahh, Newtown. I'll never get sick of your fabulous ways.
For a suburb ridden with people from such diverse backgrounds you wouldn't expect such a judgmental comment to be left.
That person is respecting themselves - by indulging in what they like.
You're not a hippy, just a narrow-minded idiot.
Get with it, if you're in Newtown you can't have views like that.
If you knew how trashy the meat industry was you'd understand. It doesn't take a hippie to realize it's bad for the entire world, the issue isn't just the animals.
Whoever wrote this gets big respect :D