June 16, 2009

You Better Go Through with It
FOUND by Cathy in Richmond, VA
I found this note torn into little pieces and stuffed into a vintage sewing pattern envelope (for teen sportswear, ca. 1960). At first it seems like a pretty normal middle-school love letter, but that last line is a tad ominous!
Schneh
Wow, hate to say it, but this is creepy. The quotation-marked "I love you", that threatening last line... And of course the clinginess. I hope Honey didn't end up in a woodchipper.

Can anybody tell me the words between "to know wether" and "you after school" in the second line?
+ June 16, 2009 12:26 AM +
Just me in my house
The word creepy is used on this site a lot, but I must say this note is creepy to me. I hate those ugly loops on the y's and g's.

Chuck loves you. Yeah, right! Creep!
+ June 16, 2009 01:22 AM +
baby basil in the herb garden
Can you say, "control freak"? Definitely scary. "6:00 is too long to wait." "Now we won't argue about it any more....right?" I can almost hear the threatening tone. "You better go through with it." Geez. I don't know what he has planned that she might not go through with, but it sounds awful. The handwriting is obsessively neat and elegant for a highschool guy, too.

Honey, run, do not walk, away from this guy. You did the right thing by tearing the note up. I hope you got right away from him and had a nice life.

How many Foundhounds think "Chuck" ended up in jail at some point?
+ June 16, 2009 01:27 AM +
linlaw
Honey, it's time to chuck "Chuck", honey...and he seemed so nice sitting in that little car.
@ Schneh- "to call"- and oh yes, he'll call. After school and at 6pm, all the way up to Friday night.
@ baby basil- many times.
+ June 16, 2009 02:20 AM +
Tim in Franklin, TN
They argued about who loved whom more? What kind of fight is that?
+ June 16, 2009 03:02 AM +
Farmer in The Dell
fter a while, he insisted she drop his nickname & start calling him Mr Cheese and, even though it was her car, he insisted on drivi
+ June 16, 2009 04:51 AM +
Librarian in the woodwork

Was this a note that Chuck E. Cheese left that little girl in the picture from the other day?

Her practice driving sessions always seemed to run late. That made Chuck late for his restaurant gigs. But after she fed her parents the tainted mushrooms (the green ink on her mash note to him back in mid-March had given him the idea of using the out-of-date mushrooms in the first place) from Chuck's pizza place, Honey and Chuck planned to drive off into the sunset.

Life would be "beautiful". They "loved" each other, right? Life would be "Child's Play". He would be groom of Honey and she would be "Bride of Chucky".
+ June 16, 2009 06:50 AM +
Freonz freak in g hallucinations
The "[y]ou better go through with it" at first read as an encouragement ("it's in your best interest to do it") but upon further consideration it sound more like a threat with an implied "or else" hanging out there.

People that quote their name in a signature give me the heebeejeebees - as if they are pretending to be someone else.

And, what was Honey practicing? Was she a cheerleader? A band nerd? A majorette? Or was he the star quarterback of football team? (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
+ June 16, 2009 07:22 AM +
mona lisa in the louvre
Mr. Chuck is clingy. probably breathes loudly, too. Don't freaking call me Honey, can't you remember my name?
+ June 16, 2009 07:22 AM +
Just me (yes, THAT one) in my humble abode
I think Chuck is a chick.
+ June 16, 2009 07:28 AM +
Dog breath in Vernal Utah
Librarian killed me with that commentary. Now I get it. Sometimes it is just innocent fun between schoolmates.
+ June 16, 2009 08:05 AM +
Turbo in the Thunderdome
Honey is getting her first taste of "Chuck" on Friday. And she better go thru with it.
+ June 16, 2009 08:51 AM +
fooch in Down The Rabbit Hole
Just me, I thought the same. "Chuck"..hee hee

Honey, chuck "Chuck" and run for your life!
+ June 16, 2009 09:05 AM +
Lolita
I concur with those today who are saying, "creepy"

yup.

+ June 16, 2009 10:02 AM +
Reading in Bed
@Librarian I was cracking up at my desk at your commentary, Awesome!

I hope Honey did't go through with it. The creepy fish hook like loops make this guy seem like the type who once he gets his claws in you he doesn't let go, ever, at least not without a shovel and a gun.
+ June 16, 2009 10:02 AM +
Feminista in in Sacramento
My mom always told me, "Don't listen when boys tell you 'I love you.' They are just trying to get in your pants." Moms really do know everything.
+ June 16, 2009 10:16 AM +
Mom Interrupted in love.
"I love you."

"I love you more."

"No, I love YOU more."

"No, *I* love YOU more."

"Look bitch. I said I love you more dammit!"

"Hey asshole! Don't tell me you love me more when we both know that I love you more!"

"Ima fuck you up!" *throws punch*

"Chuck! Don't mess with the bull! You'll get the horns." *kicks him in the crotch*

*Chuck falls to the floor, clutching nuts* "Okay. Okay. Let's just agree that we both love each other the same."

"Okay, snookums. We love each other the same. Even though I show it more."

"No, I show it more."

...

+ June 16, 2009 11:44 AM +
Clover in the Lawn
I would love to see which pattern this was. Probably a simple shift from Simplicity. Back in the days when girls sewed their own clothes. It was cheaper then. Now it's cheaper to by ready-made clothing made in China. Crazy.

Many mothers sewed in those days too. I remember when my best friend's mother made us "twin" dresses. Gingham turquoise shifts with matching little bandanas. We wore them on a trip to Seaside in 1964.

This is a great find! Really makes you wonder why it was torn up and hidden in the pattern envelope.
+ June 16, 2009 01:08 PM +
red nickel in a wishing well
Sheesh. I can almost picture his eyes staring a hole through her as she sleeps. You know, after one of his nightly climbs up the tree beside her bedroom window, just to make sure she's actually in bed, alone, like she said she was. The tone of the letter has the matter-of-fact-ness of an adult addressing an insubordinate child. His questions read more like demands, right? Yeah, you'd better agree with me.

@baby basil: "The handwriting is obsessively neat and elegant for a highschool guy, too."

Yeah, this ups the creepy quotient for me. Maybe I've watched too many psychological thrillers where the 'monster' is well-read and speaks like royalty (e.g. Hannibal Lecter). Taking into account where this note was found, let's hope he didn't sew a skin-suit out of her. Wait, that was Buffalo Bill. Nevermind.

Goodbye horses.

+ June 16, 2009 02:03 PM +
Blackbird in 14 lightyears outside the Milky Way
I hope that Chuck was just suffering though that ultimately awkward phase of his first love. You know what I mean, a case of raging teenage hormones, clueless at communication, overwhelmed with the intensity of discovering the beauty of another person, and thinking that Honey hung the sun moon & stars. Wishful thinking I know…

"Baby basil in the herb garden" is probably right about Chuck ending up in jail.
+ June 16, 2009 02:08 PM +
Hiplainsdrifter in "and Honey I miss you and I'm being good..."

Hey look Chuck knocked up Honey. Honey (a cheerleader) now has Chucks bun in the oven ...it's way back in the day and Chuck needs to get honey to some back alley clinic that a friend of a friend hooked him up with to take care of Honey's being in a family way problem.

Chuck is actually is baiting her on with the I love you "mumbojumbo"(a word not used on Found a lot but should be) to make sure she makes her date with the 'Doctor' - Chuck has a lot riding on the line here ...what with Football scholarhship and the CIA recruiters checking him out and all.... a baby and cheerleader wife would just mess up his ambitions of getting through law school and going to work in his Dad's law firm...

Honey had second thoughts and decided she would like to have Chucks baby and does - after she had Chucks love child - her body was a mess and she never could fit in the sportswear outfit she made. Chuck died in 'Nam in 1966 - brushcut and all went up in flames in a friendly fire Napalm accident. The kid ran away in 1975 and was never seen or heard from again ... until now.



+ June 16, 2009 02:21 PM +
Danna in in Denial
Oh man, this note seriously smells of future serial killer.
+ June 16, 2009 02:25 PM +
Tara Elizabeth in Stewartsville, New Jersey
Chuck "seems" to be in total control.. or very demanding by the words he uses.. but if you really think about it.. in reality.. if he really was in control.. he wouldn't have to be writing any of this down.. because she'd be doing it no matter what. So writing this down I think was indeed an unconsious self therapy to convince himself (really) that he is "in control".. but you can actually see right there in the words.. SHE IS in control.. and he is loosing it! Saying.. " six oclock is too long... I can't wait that long etc.. I thought we both agreed.."...

I think this note was really to help himself feel secure... to help him feel like he wasn't loosing it.. but it really didn't hide whats really going on.. because he still wrote down the truth subconsiously and this is a man.. who will probably always live his life clueless to what is right in front of him. Always finding comfort by being a legend in his own mind.

Tara Elizabeth
+ June 16, 2009 02:27 PM +
lost in america
I think Just Me is right. The quotation marks make Chuck look like somekind of inside-jokey pet name.
+ June 16, 2009 02:28 PM +
D
I'm betting on teacher / student relationship with this one.
+ June 16, 2009 02:38 PM +
TarasChance in Stewartsville, New Jersey
Tara Elizabeth in Stewartsville New Jersey Just left a comment on here.. than signed up for an account.. so I want to repost under my account name :)

Chuck "seems" to be in total control.. or very demanding by the words he uses.. but if you really think about it.. in reality.. if he really was in control.. he wouldn't have to be writing any of this down.. because she'd be doing it no matter what. So writing this down I think was indeed an unconsious self therapy to convince himself (really) that he is "in control".. but you can actually see right there in the words.. SHE IS in control.. and he is loosing it! Saying.. " six oclock is too long... I can't wait that long etc.. I thought we both agreed.."...

I think this note was really to help himself feel secure... to help him feel like he wasn't loosing it.. but it really didn't hide whats really going on.. because he still wrote down the truth subconsiously and this is a man.. who will probably always live his life clueless to what is right in front of him. Always finding comfort by being a legend in his own mind.

Tara Elizabeth
+ June 16, 2009 02:47 PM +
Random in formation
Tara Elizabeth... what's with all the two dots? Are they periods or ellipses?
+ June 16, 2009 02:52 PM +
Muse on the Loose
Honey had tried to tell "Chuck" it was over, but he wouldn't listen. He followed her home and kept writing her letters. She was starting to get really freaked out. He would call every night at six o'clock and always wanted to know if she had "practice" that night. She had told him she was in the band, but it was a total lie. She ended up moving to North Korea and changing her name to Millie.
+ June 16, 2009 02:56 PM +
TarasChance in Stewartsville, New Jersey
random in formation...


LOL! i know.. I can't help it.. see I don't even realize I do it anymore.. but that's how I write.

Ahh! I'm doing it now!

I even do it in text...

They are very important.. sometimes three.. sometimes four.. it all depends..

I type as I think.. so thats the inbetween each thought maybe???

good question!


Tara Elizabeth
+ June 16, 2009 03:12 PM +
heather in canada
I think "Chuck" is a girl. Considering that the name is also in quotations, it may be a nickname received from the significant other. Also, I don't hear 'threatening', I hear 'needy'. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. Definitely interesting indeed.
+ June 16, 2009 03:17 PM +
TarasChance in Stewartsville, New Jersey
I wonder if he ripped up the note before he gave it to her?

Tara Elizabeth
+ June 16, 2009 03:23 PM +
Wren da May in Atlanta, GA
I have an inclination to believe that "chuck" is a pseudonym and that both characters are young women. What a clever way to disguise one's sexuality? Curious to know what came of this couple.
+ June 16, 2009 03:30 PM +
Hiplainsdrifter in South Portland, Maine

Well Tara ... there's always tomorrow...
+ June 16, 2009 06:20 PM +
Night in gale
When I first started reading this I thought it was from a mother to her offspring. Sometimes I call my kids "Honey", and I'm always grilling them for their after school sports practice schedules. Then I continued reading through the rips.. and it just got.. weird....

Welcome Tara Elizabeth.
+ June 16, 2009 07:42 PM +
Silentcogs in Spooner
You are al reading way to much into this or not enough. This could be a letter for pretty much any situation imaginable. Think this way. They're twin sisters.... the closest of siblings. They have tiny scwables, who loves who more. They have pet names for each other, "Chuck". The other is getting married to "Chucks" ex. The other doesn't want to go through with it out of respect for the other, who loves who. "Chuck" is looking past the "ex" factor and hopes her sister will go through with the wedding. ;) happy ending. Not grim and twisted.
+ June 16, 2009 07:56 PM +
Lillly in Love
Child Pedophile.
+ June 16, 2009 08:18 PM +
Liloaktree in Reality
Obviously creepy.
At first I thought it was a mother's note to passively complain about not knowing what her child was doing after school.
I agree that it might not be the obvious abusive dating picture, it could be some other sucky and controlling situation. :)
I thought we agreed?
+ June 16, 2009 08:39 PM +
Katie in UK
Does anyone else think this letter is penned by a "loving" boyfriend who had got his girlfriend pregnant? It sounds like he is trying to do some damage limitation to save his reputation in my eyes.
+ June 16, 2009 08:54 PM +
TarasChance
thank you night in gale.. i really am loving this site!!!

Tara Elizabeth
+ June 16, 2009 09:54 PM +
Sammi in Your mum
I actually don't think the note is as creepy as everyone thinks,
1. I don't think it is a guy who wrote it, no guys have handwriting like that. And girls tend to be more controlling.
2. The reason chuck was in quotes mightve been because it was a nickname that was given to her, possibly short for chuckle?
3. Yes last line a tad bit off, but I think we can all figure out what that means.
+ June 16, 2009 11:07 PM +
Clover in the Lawn
Tara Elizabeth and random in formation.. I have been typing with two dots for a couple of years, and I believe it started when I started commenting on Found. No one has ever asked me about it, though. Welcome, Tara!
+ June 17, 2009 02:54 AM +
TarasChance in Stewartsville, New Jersey
Clover in Lawn... thank you! :) Aw, everyone's so nice here! :)

yeah.. Iv'e recently had a conversation about the dots with my friends.... I don't know what I'd do without them!! (the dots.. and my friends)

lol

Goodmorning everyone.. its Wend!!! Two days till Friday!!!!
+ June 17, 2009 07:57 AM +
TarasChance in Stewartsville, New Jersey
I wish we'd be able to send messages to eachother and stuff thru our profiles.. but I guess we will all meet in these discussions??
+ June 17, 2009 07:58 AM +
bored in cleveland
My first thought with this one was student / teacher relationship too.
+ June 17, 2009 01:28 PM +
Daddy in Despair
You want creepy? I wish I had one of the letters I found that was written to my daughter by her sociopath ex-boyfriend. You wouldn't sleep tonight!!


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